{"id":2836,"date":"2018-08-20T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-08-20T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/live-optics-wp.pantheonsite.io\/loft\/discuss-dont-lecture-optics-roundtable\/"},"modified":"2025-04-03T00:01:57","modified_gmt":"2025-04-03T00:01:57","slug":"discuss-dont-lecture-optics-roundtable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/discuss-dont-lecture-optics-roundtable\/","title":{"rendered":"Discuss, don\u2019t Lecture-Optics Roundtable"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<div class=\"podcast_meta\">\n<aside><div class=\"wp-playlist wp-audio-playlist wp-playlist-light\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-current-item\"><\/div>\n\t\t<audio controls=\"controls\" preload=\"none\" width=\"838\"\n\t\t\t><\/audio>\n\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-next\"><\/div>\n\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-prev\"><\/div>\n\t<noscript>\n\t<ol>\n\t\t<li><a href='https:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2018\/08\/Discuss-dont-Lecture-Optics-Rountable.mp3'>Discuss, don't Lecture-Optics Roundtable<\/a><\/li>\t<\/ol>\n\t<\/noscript>\n\t<script type=\"application\/json\" class=\"wp-playlist-script\">{\"type\":\"audio\",\"tracklist\":true,\"tracknumbers\":true,\"images\":true,\"artists\":true,\"tracks\":[{\"src\":\"https:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2018\/08\/Discuss-dont-Lecture-Optics-Rountable.mp3\",\"type\":\"audio\/mpeg\",\"title\":\"Discuss, don't Lecture-Optics Roundtable\",\"caption\":\"\",\"description\":\"\\\"Discuss, don't Lecture-Optics Roundtable\\\" from The Spotlight Report by Edward LaVilla, Neil Momson, Logan Rodriguez Graves.\",\"meta\":{\"artist\":\"Edward LaVilla, Neil Momson, Logan Rodriguez Graves\",\"album\":\"The Spotlight Report\",\"length_formatted\":\"1:10:40\"},\"image\":{\"src\":\"https:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/audio.svg\",\"width\":48,\"height\":64},\"thumb\":{\"src\":\"https:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/audio.svg\",\"width\":48,\"height\":64}}]}<\/script>\n<\/div>\n\t<\/p>\n<\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2635\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"width: 310px\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2025\/04\/flat-earth-image-credit-nfca-pictures-flickr_1621821.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2635\" src=\"https:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2025\/04\/flat-earth-image-credit-nfca-pictures-flickr_1621821-300x132.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"132\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u2018Flat Earth\u2019 (Image credit: NFCA Pictures \/ flickr)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>This is the first optics roundtable conversation. The roundttable format is a new thing we are trying out, in which a group of scientists will gather over beers to discuss some interesting current topic in science. In this week\u2019s episode Edward LaVilla and Neil Momson joined the conversation to discuss two interesting topics. First, what is the best approach to discussing science with someone who holds a view on some scientific topic that you deem to be irrational? Do you tell them they are wrong, scoff, lecture to them what you hold to be right? Edward LaVilla proposed engaging all people in a scientific conversation, holding all curious and engaged parties as equals, and only making a prerequisite demand that rational and honest ideas be presented and generally to hold a scientific conversation. Building off of this concept, we then moved on to discussing Aumannian conversations, and how we arrive at defending absolute truths and generally what science is.<\/p>\n<p>Resources and Links from this Episode:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottaaronson.com\/blog\/?p=2410\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Common Knowledge and Aumann\u2019s Agreement Theorem<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/wp.optics.arizona.edu\/loft\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2018\/08\/deceive.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Are Disagreements Honest?<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2018Flat Earth\u2019 (Image credit: NFCA Pictures \/ flickr) This is the first optics roundtable conversation. The roundttable format is a new thing we are trying out, in which a group of scientists will gather over beers to discuss some interesting current topic in science. 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